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Season 1Episodes 1 & 2

Getting Out

Hear about how Samantha became the women’s coordinator of Identity Evropa, a white supremacist group, and why she decided she had to get out.

Getting Out: Part I

August 10, 2020

“Getting Out” begins with the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017. But this isn’t about that white supremacist rally – it’s about a woman named Samantha, who worked behind the scenes to support this violent “alt-right” march. This episode leads us through the story of how Samantha became the women’s coordinator of Identity Evropa, a white nationalist group, and why she decided she had to get out.

Warning: This account contains graphic descriptions that may trigger some listeners. Discretion is advised.

Read the full transcript here.

Getting Out: Part II

August 17, 2020

Part II takes Samantha’s story from the privacy of chatrooms to the corridors of power. What was the cost of her neo-Nazi separatist views? How did she contribute to the spread of deadly lies? And why did she decide to get out?

Warning: This account contains graphic descriptions that may trigger some listeners. Discretion is advised.

Read the full transcript here.

Getting Out: Photos

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Police in riot gear in front of the statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee

Engage Beyond the Series

Jack Posobiec’s Rise Tied to White Supremacist Movement

An map of hate groups in the United States

New Report: “When the ‘Alt-Right’ Hit the Streets: Far-Right Political Rallies in the Trump Era” — the organizing behind 'Unite the Right' and the fallout from it

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