Sounds Like Hate is an audio documentary series about the dangers and peril of everyday people who engage in extremism, and ways to disengage them from a life of hatred.

Season One

Episodes 1 & 2

Getting Out

Listen to Getting Out: Part I

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August 10, 2020

“Getting Out” begins with the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017. But this isn’t about that white supremacist rally – it’s about a woman named Samantha, who worked behind the scenes to support this violent “alt-right” march. This episode leads us through the story of how Samantha became the women’s coordinator of Identity Evropa, a white nationalist group, and why she decided she had to get out.

Warning: This account contains graphic descriptions that may trigger some listeners. Discretion is advised.

Read the full transcript here.

Episodes 3 & 4

Not Okay

Listen to Not Okay: Part I

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September 14, 2020

“Not Okay” takes us inside Randolph Union High School in Vermont, where 95% of students are white. The high school is at the center of two linked battles that are tearing the community apart: whether to remove a mascot some say bears a disturbing resemblance to a hooded Ku Klux Klansman charging on a horse and whether to fly the Black Lives Matter flag. The community’s push to fly the Black Lives Matter flag came at a moment when the school’s principal expressed concerns about a surge in hate symbols, name calling and threats. A mother of two biracial students at Randolph Union describes the conditions that led her to fear for her children’s safety at school. Her son, Aamir, says racially charged incidents and threats are so common he can hardly keep track. In this episode, students, parents and staff share their personal experiences illustrating Randolph Union’s struggle with racism and violence, and describe how they became change agents in their community.

Warning: This account contains graphic descriptions that may trigger some listeners. Discretion is advised.

Read the full transcript here.

Episodes 5-7


Listen to Baseless: Part I

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October 15, 2020

With 83 hours of exclusive secret audio recordings, “Baseless,” Part I, goes inside the “vetting room” of an extremist group. We expose their methods of recruiting deliberately from the U.S. military, the ways they encourage terroristic behavior and their expressions of paranoia. It’s also about one reporter who infiltrated their group – part of a network strategizing for the collapse of America.

Warning: This account contains graphic descriptions that may trigger some listeners. Discretion is advised.

Read the full transcript here.

Season One Showmakers

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Geraldine Moriba

Host, Executive Producer

Geraldine Moriba is the senior vice president of TheGrio News and Entertainment, and a journalist, filmmaker and writer. Previously she was a Stanford University-Brown Institute scientist using machine learning to analyze editorial decisions. She’s won Emmys, a duPont Award and a Peabody Award.

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Jamila Paksima

Host, Executive Producer

Jamila Paksima is an executive producer, journalist, director and filmmaker. She produces award-winning documentaries, political and investigative reports about social and civil rights issues. Her work has been featured on PBS, Amazon, BBC, MSNBC and Independent Lens.

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Warner Meadows


Warner Meadows is a composer, producer, rapper and singer. He’s a solo artist and half of the rap duo PEARL. His compositions, available on Spotify, blend the worlds of hip-hop, jazz and classical music.

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Jordan Gass-Poore'

Assistant Producer

Jordan Gass-Poore’ is a podcast producer and investigative journalist with a decade of experience in the U.S. and the U.K. She’s also the co-founder of the audio collective Local Switchboard NYC.

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Will Crichton

Computer Scientist

Will Crichton is a computer science Ph.D. candidate at Stanford University. His current research applies cognitive science to understand the challenges of learning and practicing software engineering.